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senators mccain, ayotte and graham say they have more questions than they had before rice's comments about benghazi. >> we are significantly troubled by many of the answers that we got and some that we didn't get it. >> if you don't know what happened just say you don't know what happened. people can push you to give explanations and you can say i don't want to give bad information. >> that's troubling to me as well, why she wouldn't have asked, i'm the person that doesn't know anything about this, i'm going on every single show. >> joining me now for our daily fix, chris cizilla, msnbc contributor managing editor of post politics.com and our own nbc capitol hill correspondent kelly o'donnell. well, this was pretty tense. chris, first to you. you've seen a lot of confirmation battles. this really did seem like an escalation, a warning shot. >> maybe they come out of this and say, look, we still kind of disagree with the way this played out but the explanations that ambassador rice gave us helped us understand. instead, what we got coming out of it was, as you point out, i think, an u
senators mccain, ayotte and graham say they have more questions than they had before rice's comments about benghazi. >> we are significantly troubled by many of the answers that we got and some that we didn't get it. >> if you don't know what happened just say you don't know what happened. people can push you to give explanations and you can say i don't want to give bad information. >> that's troubling to me as well, why she wouldn't have asked, i'm the person that doesn't...
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she'll be meeting with john mccain, lindsey graham, and kelly ayott. we're keeping our eye on that and we will keep you posted. music is a universal language. but when i was in an accident... i was worried the health care system spoke a language all its own with unitedhealthcare, i got help that fit my life. information on my phone. connection to doctors who get where i'm from. and tools to estimate what my care may cost. so i never missed a beat. we're more than 78,000 people looking out for more than 70 million americans. that's health in numbers. unitedhealthcare. >>> a state senator from idaho is now getting behind a plan that's been circulating on tea party blogs. calling for states that supported mitt romney to refuse to participate in the electoral college. a move they believe would change the results of the election. it's the kind of radical talk that turned off a lot of voters in the last election, but the wall street journal reports, they are regrouping, searching for candidates who can win in 2014. i'm joined by amy cramer who is chair of th
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heading to capitol hill for a closed door meeting with senators john mccain, lindsey graham and kelly ayotte. they were infuriated after rice called the assault that killed ambassador chris stevens and three other americans spontaneous and linked to a protest over a youtube video. she will be joined by acting cia director mike morell. the meeting could serve as a real test of whether rice will still be in for a fight over her potential nomination as secretary of state. >>> elsewhere on capitol hill today, it's back to the bargaining table for lawmakers facing a year-end fiscal cliff. yesterday the white house took a hard line insisting tax rates have to rise on the rich and warning that anymore delay on the deal could ruin consumer confidence and hurt holiday retail sales. nbc's tracie potts joins us from washington with the details. tracie, good morning. >> reporter: good morning, lynn. today we'll see a continued push by the white house. in fact, for the rest of this week, new details released this morning, still pushing for those taxes on the rich. meantime, here on capitol hill we're see
heading to capitol hill for a closed door meeting with senators john mccain, lindsey graham and kelly ayotte. they were infuriated after rice called the assault that killed ambassador chris stevens and three other americans spontaneous and linked to a protest over a youtube video. she will be joined by acting cia director mike morell. the meeting could serve as a real test of whether rice will still be in for a fight over her potential nomination as secretary of state. >>> elsewhere on...
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now behind closed doors with three of her most vocal critics, republican senator john mccain, kelly ayotte and lindsey graham talking behind closed doors to discuss classified material. the acting director of the cia, mike morel, is helping her answer questions and will accompany her to other meetings on the hill this week. an aide to mccain tells cbs news that rice requested this meeting last week and it could be decisive. if she answers mccain's questions to his satisfaction, he says he would support her nomination. >> margaret, what do you think those questions will be from the senators that they want answered? >> reporter: charlie, there are a lot of them. specifically senator mccain has said he wants ambassador rice to explain why she did not mention that within 24 hours of the assault in benghazi that the intelligence community knew that there were links to al qaeda. as you remember, in five different television appearances, she said there was no evidence that the attack was preplanned. now senator mccain has said she misled the public. ambassador rice says she respect s mccain but t
now behind closed doors with three of her most vocal critics, republican senator john mccain, kelly ayotte and lindsey graham talking behind closed doors to discuss classified material. the acting director of the cia, mike morel, is helping her answer questions and will accompany her to other meetings on the hill this week. an aide to mccain tells cbs news that rice requested this meeting last week and it could be decisive. if she answers mccain's questions to his satisfaction, he says he would...
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i wonder if that was what was disturbing to senator ayotte or any of the other senators. >> eliot: that might be more legitimate although the c.i.a. if you listen to david petraeus said we knew this was not a spontaneous revolt or spontaneous eruption and therefore our information -- look, this will continue for some period of time. let's switch gears a little bit to what's going on in egypt. which seems to be sort of gripping us at an international level. morsi on one day is a hero. he's brokered a deal. the second day he's under assault by the very people in the street who swept him into power. how do you assess what's going on and our capacity to nudge him toward maintaining a democratic framework? >> the nudging is being done by members of the international monetary fund and individuals saying to egypt if you want money for your country to thrive, you have to backtrack a little. one of the interesting dynamics going on here is that as difficult as morsi's actions the other day were to swallow for those of us who live in a democracy, the judiciary there is really not blameless either
i wonder if that was what was disturbing to senator ayotte or any of the other senators. >> eliot: that might be more legitimate although the c.i.a. if you listen to david petraeus said we knew this was not a spontaneous revolt or spontaneous eruption and therefore our information -- look, this will continue for some period of time. let's switch gears a little bit to what's going on in egypt. which seems to be sort of gripping us at an international level. morsi on one day is a hero. he's...
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i think john mccain, lindsay gram, kelly ayotte understand it was not susan rice's responsibility but she was the one -- even though she had nothing to do with it, the administration sent her out to paragraphrot talking points that were inaccurate. there were breaches of security, pleas for help that went unanswered, breaches of protocol and four dead americans that were representing all of us. what john mccain and lindsey graham wants are answers. today is a good path, good step toward getting some answers and a step in the right direction. >> so, maria cardona, our democratic strategist, we just had an election. people want democrats and republicans to get along. susan rice clearly is embattled, the source of controversy. should president obama still nominate her as his secretary of state? >> i think he should, if that's what he believes is the best thing for the country. look, she has been an outstanding public servant both at the u.n. and serving under the clinton administration in a national security role. there's no question about that. and i think what -- i actually applaud sus
i think john mccain, lindsay gram, kelly ayotte understand it was not susan rice's responsibility but she was the one -- even though she had nothing to do with it, the administration sent her out to paragraphrot talking points that were inaccurate. there were breaches of security, pleas for help that went unanswered, breaches of protocol and four dead americans that were representing all of us. what john mccain and lindsey graham wants are answers. today is a good path, good step toward getting...
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of maine as well as wisconsin' ron johnson, mark kurt, rob portman, pat toomi, marco rubio and kelly ayotte. nevada's dean heller was the only to win in a blue state in the 2012 cycle. he narrow will he won over shelly berkeley despite the president winning the state by six. they have a none of the above. susan collins was the only other senator on the list to face voters while president obama was on the ballot. she won her third it term in 2008. the other seven were all elected or re-elected in the big republican wave of 2010. could republicans take back some of that territory in 2014 is this joining me now political analyst and editor and publisher of the cook political report, charlie cook. charlie, we have a senate announcement today. this is happenstance. we planned this last week and we can talk about 2014 and jay rockefeller. >> at least shelly capito had the decency to wait until after thanksgiving. >> mike brown announced two weeks ago he was running in 2014. >> see, i wasn't paying attention then. >> fair enough. is this all chalked up to bad recruiting by the republicans, the suc
of maine as well as wisconsin' ron johnson, mark kurt, rob portman, pat toomi, marco rubio and kelly ayotte. nevada's dean heller was the only to win in a blue state in the 2012 cycle. he narrow will he won over shelly berkeley despite the president winning the state by six. they have a none of the above. susan collins was the only other senator on the list to face voters while president obama was on the ballot. she won her third it term in 2008. the other seven were all elected or re-elected...
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happening here is that, you know, as we said in the editorial as doug mentioned, while senators graham, ayotte and mccain are focused on what susan rice, ambassador rice said on the sunday talk shows, they are not asking any questions at all about the real questions about security there at the consulate in benghazi. that's where their interest and focus and ire should be pointed. not at a u.n. ambassador who went on the sunday talk shows as a spokesperson for the administration giving, imparting the information she was given by the intelligence community. >> and susan, for those just joining us. this happened moments ago in the last hour. i want to remind everyone what the three senators had to say. take a look. >> we are significantly troubled by many of the answers that we got and some that we didn't get. >> bottom line, i'm more disturbed now than i was before that the 16 september explanation about how four americans died in benghazi, libya, by ambassador rice, i think, does not do justice to the reality at the time. >> clearly the impression that was given, the information given to the am
happening here is that, you know, as we said in the editorial as doug mentioned, while senators graham, ayotte and mccain are focused on what susan rice, ambassador rice said on the sunday talk shows, they are not asking any questions at all about the real questions about security there at the consulate in benghazi. that's where their interest and focus and ire should be pointed. not at a u.n. ambassador who went on the sunday talk shows as a spokesperson for the administration giving,...
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senator john mccain, lindsey graham, kelly ayotte of new hampshire met privately with her today. it did not go well. listen. >> bottom line, i'm more disturbed now than i was before. information given the american people was wrong. ambassador rice said it was wrong and to be clear, if you are an ambassador to the united nations you go well beyond the unclassified talking points in the daily preparation for that job. >> we are significantly troubled by the answers that many got. some we didn't get. >> she had no intention to mislead the american people. >> the white house blames the critics. listen. >> the focus on some might say the obsession on comments made on sunday shows seems to me and to many to be misplaced. >> the national shows get too much attention. are you surprised that ambassador rice didn't have a better explanation for her interview? >> dana: i got home last night and checked e-mail for the last time and saw she will have a meeting. i said they have it wrapped up. go in and smooth it over. you should have these things organized before you go to a meeting. you know
senator john mccain, lindsey graham, kelly ayotte of new hampshire met privately with her today. it did not go well. listen. >> bottom line, i'm more disturbed now than i was before. information given the american people was wrong. ambassador rice said it was wrong and to be clear, if you are an ambassador to the united nations you go well beyond the unclassified talking points in the daily preparation for that job. >> we are significantly troubled by the answers that many got. some...
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it was with senators lindsey graham and kelly ayotte and john mccain. >> they were upset. john mccain over the weekend backed up a little. >> he backed up. >> which is really cool. she went up and said i'm sorry. >> she did the brave thing and went right in there and said i want to address this. >> how did that work? >> she talked about her initial account of the attack. she explained to them that she was relying on faulty intelligence, faulty talking points from the intelligence communities. >> and they said? >> they said, you know what, we still don't get it. >> go to video. >> we are significantly troubled by many of the answers that we got and some that we didn't get. it is clear that the information that she gave the american people was incorrect. >> bottom line, i'm more disturbed than i was before. if you don't know what happened, just say you don't know what happened. people can push you to give explanations and you can say i don't want to give bad information. >> i am more troubled today knowing, having met with the acting director of the cia and ambassador rice.
it was with senators lindsey graham and kelly ayotte and john mccain. >> they were upset. john mccain over the weekend backed up a little. >> he backed up. >> which is really cool. she went up and said i'm sorry. >> she did the brave thing and went right in there and said i want to address this. >> how did that work? >> she talked about her initial account of the attack. she explained to them that she was relying on faulty intelligence, faulty talking points...
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i asked kelly ayotte yesterday, she said, no, it was on the substance. have we had others who have gone on sunday television talk shows, made mistakes and not punished as severely as susan rice? >> i think there is a double standard, not necessarily with punishment for the talk shows, because i don't think this is about comments that were basically right that she made on sunday talk shows. i think this is about a lot of other things including a personality that even susan rice's friends say can be abrasive, sharp elbowed. all sorts of things that i think it's easier for men to get away with even men in diplomatic jobs, than for women. and i think women are in an odd role those days. women in the senate, i'm going to be writing about this for a column in tomorrow's paper, the women in the senate talk about how women are terrific at being collegial and getting things done and learning how to cooperate. if you're a woman like susan rice who is not necessarily in that kind of female nurturer collegial role but sort of elbows out, tough player, i think you ac
i asked kelly ayotte yesterday, she said, no, it was on the substance. have we had others who have gone on sunday television talk shows, made mistakes and not punished as severely as susan rice? >> i think there is a double standard, not necessarily with punishment for the talk shows, because i don't think this is about comments that were basically right that she made on sunday talk shows. i think this is about a lot of other things including a personality that even susan rice's friends...
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you have senator john mccain, lindsey graham, kelly ayotte. she went to address concerns they have over statements the ambassador made over the u.s. mission in benghazi on september 11th that left ambassador chris stevens and three other americans dead. i want you to listen to what senator graham, republican south carolina, here, said immediately after the meeting ended. >> bottom line, i'm more disturbed now than i was before that the 16 september explanation about how four americans died in benghazi, libya, by ambassador rice, i think does not do justice to the reality at the time, and in hindsight clearly was completely wrong. but here's the key. in real time, it was a statement disconnected from reality. >> and now here is senator ayotte. >> i want to say that i'm more troubled today, knowing -- having met with the acting director of the cia and ambassador rice, because it's certainly clear from the beginning that we knew that those with ties to al qaeda were involved in the attack on the embassy. and clearly the impression that was given,
you have senator john mccain, lindsey graham, kelly ayotte. she went to address concerns they have over statements the ambassador made over the u.s. mission in benghazi on september 11th that left ambassador chris stevens and three other americans dead. i want you to listen to what senator graham, republican south carolina, here, said immediately after the meeting ended. >> bottom line, i'm more disturbed now than i was before that the 16 september explanation about how four americans...
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hat but ayotte has not. this reminds you of, say, jesse helms who once put a blanket hold on all clinton ambassadors, on all 400 people at one point, because he wanted attention paid. senator shelby put a hold on tions from tfrom the obama administration based on a tanker senators say on thes say i'm going to put a hold to bang on the table. timee they serious about it, f thatg a hold on her nomination if that nomination comes? >> >> i thenk if they don't get the answers, they will. if they don't get the answers isy want. the question is whether they can get the answers. >> the president is off on a the pr trip trying to sell the ideas he wants. >> tax rates will go up for the wealthy and republicans say we voteever going to vote for thy.hing where tax rates will go cole, the wealthy. but congressman cole is a ed in acan in the house who has uggested a report in politico that maybe republicans should wy, okay, we'll let rates go up for the wealthy temporarily as part of a two-part deal. nd'll let those rates
hat but ayotte has not. this reminds you of, say, jesse helms who once put a blanket hold on all clinton ambassadors, on all 400 people at one point, because he wanted attention paid. senator shelby put a hold on tions from tfrom the obama administration based on a tanker senators say on thes say i'm going to put a hold to bang on the table. timee they serious about it, f thatg a hold on her nomination if that nomination comes? >> >> i thenk if they don't get the answers, they will....
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not honey bear kelly ayotte. we were saying one of the issues would be if obama was to appoint john kerry then scott brown might weasel his way back into the senate. honey bear kelly says scott brown just lost an election. does anyone think he can win one now? that's a valid point. he's a loser. >> bill: what do you think of the campaign against susan rice? >> i have found it incredibly offensive. you are talking about a rhodes scholar, somebody who has 20 plus years in the diplomatic corps. also what that person tweeted. we're in the middle of major international issues. she's dealing with syria gaza, the congo. she's still our representative to the united nations. so while we're talking this foolishness about her appearance on a tv talk show, what signal is that sending to the rest of the world? i do think they've got themselves backed in a corner now. i think the other agenda going on is the senate race. so i think that it needs to stop. i hope it will today. i know she's back on the hill again today. >> bill:
not honey bear kelly ayotte. we were saying one of the issues would be if obama was to appoint john kerry then scott brown might weasel his way back into the senate. honey bear kelly says scott brown just lost an election. does anyone think he can win one now? that's a valid point. he's a loser. >> bill: what do you think of the campaign against susan rice? >> i have found it incredibly offensive. you are talking about a rhodes scholar, somebody who has 20 plus years in the...
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i agree entirely with aepb ayotte. we see al-qaida growing and expanding throughout the middle east. either al-qaida or it's franchises growing and expanding, in many ways the threat is greater now than on 9/11. for susan rice not to understand that is alarming. martha: when she talked about what happened in benghazi and attributed it to the mob and the film, my question works i would want to knowfor you. did you eliminate them as a threat in that region and why? do you think that question has been asked with her. >> i don't think it has. she got away with saying she relied on classified talking points. she had an obligation to look at the classified information. she had to have access to that. that showed that obviously al-qaida is, it's alive unfortunately and its franchises and affiliates are growing and they are in many ways a worse threat to us and the al-qaida core was. that does not reflect on the obama administration, it goes against the narrative that because osama bin laden is dead al-qaida is decimated. the
i agree entirely with aepb ayotte. we see al-qaida growing and expanding throughout the middle east. either al-qaida or it's franchises growing and expanding, in many ways the threat is greater now than on 9/11. for susan rice not to understand that is alarming. martha: when she talked about what happened in benghazi and attributed it to the mob and the film, my question works i would want to knowfor you. did you eliminate them as a threat in that region and why? do you think that question has...
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we saw the arrival of senators mccain and graham and kelly ayotte. they say they can serious problems as she characterized the assault as spontaneous and blamed an anti-islam video for the death of four americans. >> the best assessment we have today is this was not a preplanned premeditated attack. it was a spontaneous reaction to what had transpired in cairo as a consequence of the video. >> reporter: she said she relied on the best available intelligence. they say that is simply not the case she had access to talking points and the classified information, as i heard from senator mccain that classified intelligence showing strong evidence within days of the attack, specifically by september 14th that there was no demonstration at the consulate when the attack unfolded, bill. bill: we mentioned john mccain. who else is at this meeting, catherine. >> reporter: one of the most interesting developments this morning is that in addition to rice and the senators the acting director of the cia mike mo remember, l will -lts be at th will also be at the meet
we saw the arrival of senators mccain and graham and kelly ayotte. they say they can serious problems as she characterized the assault as spontaneous and blamed an anti-islam video for the death of four americans. >> the best assessment we have today is this was not a preplanned premeditated attack. it was a spontaneous reaction to what had transpired in cairo as a consequence of the video. >> reporter: she said she relied on the best available intelligence. they say that is simply...
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today's meetings come after a first round of talks with senators john mccain, lindsey graham and kelly ayotte. and those meetings as we first reported to you yesterday did not appear to go very well. chief intelligence correspondent catherine herridge is live in washington with more. >> reporter: thank you, jenna. ambassador rice is meeting two more republicans senators bob corker and susan collins. you're looking at stakeout position on capitol hill. ambassador rice is expected to meet with six senators. if she is nominated as next secretary of state she will need six republicans to vote for her to region the magic number of 60 for confirmation. so far republicans are not convinced. >> yesterday in talking to some of those to whom she talked i'm absolutely convinced in my mind bill, she is part of the cover-up. she knew all the time the cia information that was given to her. >> reporter: senators graham, mccain and ayotte tellingers after yesterday's meeting that the information let them more disturbed and not reassured about rice's benghazi comments that which portrayed the a tack as a demo
today's meetings come after a first round of talks with senators john mccain, lindsey graham and kelly ayotte. and those meetings as we first reported to you yesterday did not appear to go very well. chief intelligence correspondent catherine herridge is live in washington with more. >> reporter: thank you, jenna. ambassador rice is meeting two more republicans senators bob corker and susan collins. you're looking at stakeout position on capitol hill. ambassador rice is expected to meet...
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senators graham and ayotte would place holds on her name. senates have 53 democrats . coming up in january they will have 55 and they need 60. and they need five republicans g to get on board and that could be tough sleeding. >> b <> rian: it is it a almost a joke. mccain and graham and ayote and why are yoa acquiescing . they are flabber gasted after the meeting. we got nothing out of this and i have more questions than before and at 4:00 playing to your point with the cia placed a call and they came out and said acting director morell stated that the cia now says that it deleted the al-qaida references and not the f.b.i.. so they were unable to give a reason why. and they can't get it straight on who deleted the references to an al-qaida inspired attack. >> steve: the head of the cia said the f.b.i. did it and had to walk it back . the cia call would and said it was not the f.b.i., it was us sorry and we can explain why we did it? >> gretchen: and why is the big question here. in my mind it is politics and in my mind, we may never know. why two people know the real s
senators graham and ayotte would place holds on her name. senates have 53 democrats . coming up in january they will have 55 and they need 60. and they need five republicans g to get on board and that could be tough sleeding. >> b rian: it is it a almost a joke. mccain and graham and ayote and why are yoa acquiescing . they are flabber gasted after the meeting. we got nothing out of this and i have more questions than before and at 4:00 playing to your point with the cia placed a call...
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rice will sit down with senators john mccain, lindsey graham, and kelly ayott. in recent days, senator mccain has softened his criticism as rice insists that she was relying on talking points from the intelligence community. last night, senator graham rejecting her defense but says he's open to today's meeting. >> she asked to meet with us and now we'll listen to what she has to say about her role in benghazi. the more i know about benghazi, the more upset i am that the consulate was even open on september 11th. when you look at the history and the reporting coming out of libya about the dangers, it should never have been open or heavily reinforced. after the attack, i think the story we were told about a spontaneous event caused by video where a mob turned into a riot is less credible than ever. >> she reportedly called the meeting. seems like a smart move. what do you think? >> well, i think it's a smart move for john mccain to take the meeting. they're boxed in. this is not a fight they want right now. it was a stupid fight to pick. they put themselves into a
rice will sit down with senators john mccain, lindsey graham, and kelly ayott. in recent days, senator mccain has softened his criticism as rice insists that she was relying on talking points from the intelligence community. last night, senator graham rejecting her defense but says he's open to today's meeting. >> she asked to meet with us and now we'll listen to what she has to say about her role in benghazi. the more i know about benghazi, the more upset i am that the consulate was even...
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she angered john mccain, lindsey graham and kelly ayotte for her initial comments made on several tv networks that seemed to play down the role of al qaeda terrorists on the attack in benghazi, libya. that attack killed four americans, including u.s. ambassador chris stevens. rice maintains that she made it very clear, the intelligence information she had at the time was preliminary. senators are threatening to block her nomination if president obama chooses her to be his next secretary of state. >>> president obama and vice president joe biden will meet with mexico's president-elect today. pena kneeate toe has a new message. in an editorial in "the washington post" he said the u.s./mexico relations need to go beyond drugs and security concerns. topping his list, deepening economic ties with the united states. >>> the remains of former palestinian leader yasser arafat were exhumed this morning from a mausoleum in the west bank. many palestinians believe that arafat was poisoned by israel when he died in 2004. now, an international team of scientists will analyze tissue samples to see
she angered john mccain, lindsey graham and kelly ayotte for her initial comments made on several tv networks that seemed to play down the role of al qaeda terrorists on the attack in benghazi, libya. that attack killed four americans, including u.s. ambassador chris stevens. rice maintains that she made it very clear, the intelligence information she had at the time was preliminary. senators are threatening to block her nomination if president obama chooses her to be his next secretary of...
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] >> ambassador rice released a statement about that meeting with senators mccain, graham and kelly ayotte saying in part in the course of the meeting we explained that the talking points provided by the intelligence community and the initial assessment upon which they were based were incorrect in the key respect. there was no protester demonstration in benghazi. while we certainly wish that we had perfect information just days after the terrorist attack as is often the case, the intelligence assessment has evolved. we stressed neither i nor anyone else in the administration intended to mislead the american people at any stage in this process. and administration updated congress and the american people as our assessments involve. -- the fall. that's a statement from a ambassador rice. >> negotiations continue with president obama and congressional leaders about the fiscal cliff. we took your phone calls this morning on "washington journal" about that. >> host: at the daily news conference at the white house, jay carney, the spokesman there was asked about liberals who are advocating going
] >> ambassador rice released a statement about that meeting with senators mccain, graham and kelly ayotte saying in part in the course of the meeting we explained that the talking points provided by the intelligence community and the initial assessment upon which they were based were incorrect in the key respect. there was no protester demonstration in benghazi. while we certainly wish that we had perfect information just days after the terrorist attack as is often the case, the...